Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“which also includes evidence that OpenAI's revenues were at around $4.5 billion by the end of September, a vast difference from the $4.3 billion for the first half of the year published by other outlets.”

2025, A Retrospective, paragraph 26. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

OpenAI's revenues were around $4.5 billion by the end of September 2025, a vast difference from the $4.3 billion for the first half of the year published by other outlets.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Ed Zitron wrote it

Where's Your Ed At, 2025, A Retrospective, paragraph 26.

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Evidence as of
the cutoff for this assessment
Assessment recorded
assessment wyea-2025-a-retrospective-088e29-a1

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What the claim commits to

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Observation
Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
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Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Deadline state on 2026-10-29
No horizon (the release’s reference date)

Conditions

  • by the end of September 2025 (qualifier, stated by the speaker)

From the speaker

  • OpenAI's revenues
  • around $4.5 billion
  • by the end of September
  • $4.3 billion for the first half of the year published by other outlets

Our interpretation

  • Read the main amount as cumulative realized revenue from January 1 through September 30, 2025.
  • The basis is estimate because the assertion derives from reporting and documents rather than a stated accounting standard.
  • The ordinary reading is total company revenue, before treating a commercial partner's net settlement as the company's revenue.
  • 'Around' permits rounding and modest estimation differences; no precise tolerance was supplied.
  • The first-half figure is a separate statement about reporting. It cannot itself establish nine-month revenue.
  • 'By the end of September' specifies the observation period, not a conditional antecedent.

Counts as supported if: Independent evidence measuring cumulative OpenAI revenue through September 2025 on the same basis places it around $4.5 billion.

Counts as contradicted if: Independent evidence measuring the same nine-month revenue on the same basis places it materially outside an ordinary approximation to $4.5 billion.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

Other outlets did report approximately $4.3 billion for the first half. That does not settle cumulative revenue through September. TechCrunch's independent source says the leaked Microsoft payments were net of reciprocal revenue sharing, so they cannot directly establish OpenAI's total revenue. This identifies a weakness in the $4.5 billion inference, but does not provide a matching total that proves it false.

Limitations

  • News reporting was used because matching primary financial records were not obtained.
  • A flawed inference is not itself proof that the stated amount is wrong.
  • The first-half reporting component is corroborated, but remains context because its period differs.

Evidence (2 items)

  • Context only: TechCrunch,

    net revenue share

    Why it matters here: TechCrunch's independently contacted source describes net payments after reciprocal offsets. Those payments therefore cannot directly establish OpenAI's total revenue; this undermines the inference without proving a different nine-month total.

    Publisher
    TechCrunch
    Kind of source
    News report
    Measures
    Microsoft, Net revenue-sharing receipts from OpenAI, USD millions, estimate, 2025-01-01 to 2025-09-30
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: Reuters, syndicated by Yahoo Finance,

    Reuters could not immediately verify the report.

    Why it matters here: Reuters reports The Information's approximately $4.3 billion first-half revenue figure, confirming that this comparison appeared in other reporting. It neither independently verifies that amount nor measures the nine-month target.

    Publisher
    Reuters, syndicated by Yahoo Finance
    Kind of source
    News report
    Measures
    OpenAI, Cumulative revenue, USD billions, estimate, 2025-01-01 to 2025-06-30
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

OpenAI's January–September 2025 revenue statement, or independently verified reporting of it, with a reconciliation of Microsoft revenue-sharing offsets and accounting treatment.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Where's Your Ed At, 2025, A Retrospective

    which also includes evidence that OpenAI's revenues were at around $4.5 billion by the end of September, a vast difference from the $4.3 billion for the first half of the year published by other outlets.

    Published
    2025-12-31
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

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