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OpenAI Is A Systemic Risk To The Tech Industry

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Claims from this post (24)

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  1. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “It's reasonable to believe that OpenAI will raise more debt this year, and I'd estimate it does so to the tune of around $5 billion or $6 billion.”

    What we tested: OpenAI will likely raise around $5-6 billion more in debt in 2025.

  2. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “As a reminder: OpenAI loses money on every single user.”

    What we tested: OpenAI loses money on every single user.

  3. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “I expect the latter cost to balloon with OpenAI's investment in physical infrastructure for Stargate.”

    What we tested: OpenAI's owned-infrastructure costs will balloon due to its Stargate investment.

  4. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “In the event that its costs are as severe as reporting suggests, it’s likely the company will find itself needing to raise more capital — whether through equity (or the weird sort-of equity that it issues) or through debt.”

    What we tested: If OpenAI's costs are as severe as reported, it will likely need to raise more capital through equity or debt.

  5. Assessment: SupportedSaid

    “SoftBank's exposure to OpenAI is materially harming the company.”

    What we tested: SoftBank's exposure to OpenAI is materially harming SoftBank.

    What happened: JCR changed the outlook after discussing the large OpenAI commitment, Stargate and increased exposure to unlisted AI assets. This supports deterioration in the credit profile, while the same sentence confirms that the rating itself was affirmed. (Japan Credit Rating Agency, )

  6. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “As a result, SoftBank will likely have to start selling off parts of its valuable holdings in companies like Alibaba and ARM, or, worse still, parts of its ailing investments from its Vision Fund, resulting in a material loss on its underwater deals.”

    What we tested: As a result of its OpenAI funding obligations and borrowing constraints, SoftBank will likely have to start selling parts of its holdings in companies like Alibaba and ARM, or parts of its ailing Vision Fund investments, resulting in a material loss on its underwater deals.

  7. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “It's reasonable to believe that OpenAI will, as a result, need to raise in excess of $40 billion in funding a year, though it's reasonable to believe that it will need to raise more along the lines of $50 billion or more a year until it reaches profitability.”

    What we tested: OpenAI will likely need to raise more than $40 billion, probably $50 billion or more, every year until it is profitable.

  8. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “In simpler terms, even if OpenAI wasn’t running out of money, even if OpenAI wasn’t horrifyingly unprofitable, it also may not have enough GPUs to continue providing its services in a reliable manner.”

    What we tested: OpenAI may not have enough GPUs to keep providing its services reliably.

  9. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Though downtime might be an obvious choice, capacity issues at OpenAI will likely manifest in hard limits on what free users can do, some of which I've documented above.”

    What we tested: OpenAI's capacity issues will likely show up as hard limits on what free users can do.

  10. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “OpenAI has, up until this point, had fairly impressive uptime. Still, if it is running up against a wall, this streak will end.”

    What we tested: If OpenAI is hitting capacity limits, its streak of good uptime will end with service degradation.

  11. Assessment: ContradictedSaid

    “OpenAI has become a load-bearing company for the tech industry, both as a narrative — as previously discussed, ChatGPT is the only Large Language Model company with any meaningful userbase — and as a financial entity.”

    What we tested: OpenAI is a load-bearing company for the tech industry, narratively and financially, and ChatGPT is the only LLM product with a meaningful userbase.

    What happened: Meta reported substantial recurring use of its AI assistant during the target period. This contradicts the ordinary reading that only ChatGPT had any meaningful userbase, without requiring a direct comparison to ChatGPT's weekly usage. (Meta Platforms, )

  12. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “I can see OpenAI’s failure having a similar systemic effect.”

    What we tested: OpenAI's failure could have a systemic effect on tech and markets similar to Lehman Brothers' collapse.

  13. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “It's unclear how many of the Blackwell GPUs that Oracle has had to purchase in advance, but in the event of any kind of financial collapse at OpenAI, Oracle would likely take a loss of at least a billion dollars, if not several billion dollars.”

    What we tested: If OpenAI collapses financially, Oracle will likely lose at least $1 billion, possibly several billion.

  14. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “In the event that OpenAI cannot fulfil its obligations, CoreWeave will collapse. It is that simple.”

    What we tested: If OpenAI cannot meet its obligations, CoreWeave will collapse.

  15. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “If OpenAI fails, then CoreWeave fails, which then hurts NVIDIA.”

    What we tested: If OpenAI fails, CoreWeave will fail, which will hurt NVIDIA.

  16. Assessment: ContradictedSaid

    “OpenAI, as I've written before, is effectively the entire generative AI industry, with its nearest competitor being less than five percent of its 500 million weekly active users.”

    What we tested: OpenAI is effectively the entire generative AI industry; its nearest competitor has under 5% of its weekly active users.

    What happened: The decisive quantity is a derived weekly-user lower bound: the same day’s active users must also be active in its containing week. The reported 35 million therefore exceeds the claimed 25-million ceiling without equating daily and weekly counts. (NPR via Georgia Public Broadcasting, )

  17. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “OpenAI requires more compute resources than anyone has ever needed, and will continue to do so in perpetuity.”

    What we tested: OpenAI requires more compute than anyone has ever needed and will keep doing so indefinitely.

  18. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “It's bullshit, but it captured the hearts and minds of AI boosters because it vaguely suggests that somehow Large Language Models and their associated technology will become something entirely different.”

    What we tested: The AI 2027 report's suggestion that LLMs will become something entirely different, such as a self-teaching agent, is bullshit.

  19. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “Nobody has ever raised as much as OpenAI needs to, and based on the sheer amount of difficulty that SoftBank is having in raising the funds to meet the lower tranche ($10bn) of its commitment, it may simply not be possible for this company to continue.”

    What we tested: It may not be possible for OpenAI to continue as a company given its unprecedented funding needs.

  20. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “OpenAI has never been forced to stand on its own two feet or focus on efficiency, and I believe the constant enabling of its ugly, nonsensical burnrate has doomed this company.”

    What we tested: Constant enabling of OpenAI's burn rate has doomed the company.

  21. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “More likely, Microsoft got what it needed out of OpenAI, which has reached the limit of the models it can develop, and which Microsoft already retains the IP of.”

    What we tested: More likely than a desire for OpenAI's independence, Microsoft pulled back because it got what it needed out of OpenAI, which has reached the limit of the models it can develop and whose IP Microsoft already retains.

  22. Assessment: UnresolvedSaid

    “It's also important to note that absolutely nobody other than NVIDIA is making any money from generative AI. CoreWeave loses billions of dollars, OpenAI loses billions of dollars, Anthropic loses billions of dollars, and I can't find a single company providing generative AI-powered software that's making a profit.”

    What we tested: No one except NVIDIA makes money from generative AI; OpenAI, Anthropic and CoreWeave lose billions.

  23. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “CoreWeave will likely collapse under the weight of its abominable debt, which will lead to a 7%+ revenue drop for NVIDIA at a time when revenue growth has already begun to slow.”

    What we tested: After an OpenAI collapse, CoreWeave will likely collapse under its debt, causing NVIDIA a revenue drop of 7% or more.

  24. Assessment: Can’t be checkedSaid

    “OpenAI has the only meaningful userbase in generative AI, and this entire hype-cycle has been driven by its success, meaning any deterioration (or collapse) of OpenAI will tell the market what I've been saying for over a year: that generative AI is not the next hyper-growth market, and its underlying economics do not make sense.”

    What we tested: Generative AI is not the next hyper-growth market and its economics don't make sense; any deterioration of OpenAI will reveal this to the market.

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