Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“While I’d love to believe that Apple has only used licensed content to train its models, that clearly isn’t the case, and if their version of “publicly available” includes things from Google, or DeviantArt, or social networks, Apple is willingly participating in the AI boom’s continual pillaging of the internet.”

Let Tim Cook, paragraph 19.

Our reading:

Apple has not trained its models only on licensed content.

Assessment: Unresolved

What happened

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

We checked, and the evidence so far doesn’t settle it.

Judged on a plain reading. They named no measure, so we used the reading a typical informed reader would take. It is spelled out under “How we judged it”.

Evidence up to . Checked .

Why

Apple's June 10, 2024 disclosure describes training on licensed data and publicly available data collected by AppleBot. [e1] It does not identify an included work used without an applicable license or provide a complete licensing inventory. [e1] The disclosure therefore establishes web collection but does not settle whether the relevant training completed by June 17, 2024 used any unlicensed content. [e1]

Caveats

  • Public accessibility and crawler collection do not establish licensing status.
  • The disclosure chiefly covers two language models and does not provide a complete account of image-model training.
  • The evidence does not establish whether any training use infringed copyright.

Evidence (1 item)

  • Context only: Apple Machine Learning Research,

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    Why it matters: The surrounding paragraph distinguishes licensed datasets from publicly accessible material collected by AppleBot. That establishes web collection, but does not identify an included work's licensing status or establish that every crawled work lacked a license.

    Publisher
    Apple Machine Learning Research
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    About events on
    Published

How we judged it

Kind of claim
Observation
Deadline
None given. We don’t add one.

Where we had to interpret

  • Assess the factual assertion about the training of the Apple Intelligence models discussed in the post.
  • Licensed includes applicable open licenses as well as individually negotiated licenses.
  • Public accessibility and collection by a crawler do not, by themselves, establish whether content was licensed.
  • The conditional speculation about particular websites and the moral characterization of pillaging are not separate factual commitments in the normalized claim.
  • The target is training completed by the post date; no training start date is supplied.

Right if: A reliable disclosure or documented training record establishes inclusion of content used without an applicable license.

Wrong if: A sufficiently complete training-data and rights record establishes that all relevant training content was licensed.

We wrote this test after the outcome was known.

What would settle it

Reliable records showing that content used in the relevant models' training by June 17, 2024 lacked an applicable license, or a sufficiently complete training-data and rights inventory establishing that all relevant content was licensed.

We found 19 claims in this post. See them all.

Full record

Source and dates

Where's Your Ed At, Let Tim Cook, paragraph 19.

Said
We read the source
live page, full text, public
Evidence up to
Checked

We read this wording on 2026-10-28. The post may have been edited after 2024-06-17.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the posts we read.

  • : Where's Your Ed At, Let Tim Cook

    While I’d love to believe that Apple has only used licensed content to train its models, that clearly isn’t the case, and if their version of “publicly available” includes things from Google, or DeviantArt, or social networks, Apple is willingly participating in the AI boom’s continual pillaging of the internet.

    Published
    2024-06-17
    We read it
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Versions

  • Current: Unresolved. Evidence up to 2026-10-28.

What happened to this record

  1. PublishedBy us

    Published after both AI reviews and the final check passed.

  2. Held backBy us

    The final check failed: a cited source didn’t say what the write-up said, and the write-up said more than the evidence showed, and a condition they stated was left out.