Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“It is time for investors and the general public to begin demanding tangible and direct numbers on the revenue and profits related to generative AI, as it is becoming increasingly obvious that the revenues are small and the profits are non-existent.”

Power Cut, paragraph 111. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Generative AI revenues are small and profits are non-existent.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Ed Zitron wrote it

Where's Your Ed At, Power Cut, paragraph 111.

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Source observed
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Evidence as of
the cutoff for this assessment
Assessment recorded
assessment wyea-power-cut-d70623-2-a1

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The wording above is the version this site observed on 2026-10-28. The source may have been edited after 2025-03-03. This page does not claim the wording was captured then.

What the claim commits to

Kind
Observation
Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
None stated. This site does not add one.
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Deadline state on 2026-10-29
No horizon (the release’s reference date)

From the speaker

  • revenue and profits related to generative AI
  • revenues are small
  • profits are non-existent

Our interpretation

  • The assessable assertion concerns commercial generative AI providers; the demand for disclosure is not itself scored.
  • The ordinary reading is that generative AI revenue remains modest relative to the investment discussed and that providers are not earning meaningful attributable profits.
  • For the ongoing cross-provider financial observation, calendar 2024 is the latest completed annual period before publication. No period is named by the speaker.
  • The statement does not specify a revenue threshold, provider universe, profit definition, or common accounting basis.
  • Capital expenditure is not treated as an immediate operating expense, and annualized run rate is not treated as realized revenue.

Counts as supported if: Comparable 2024 disclosures establish modest generative AI revenue relative to the relevant investment and no positive attributable profits across the defined provider universe.

Counts as contradicted if: Comparable 2024 evidence establishes substantial revenue under a stated scale comparison or positive attributable profits within the claim's provider universe.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

Available figures do not settle both assertions. OpenAI's reported loss forecast supports concern about its economics, while Microsoft's run rate and reports of Midjourney profitability caution against a blanket conclusion. These sources measure different companies, periods and financial concepts. They cannot establish either small realized revenue or nonexistent profits across the relevant industry on a common basis.

Limitations

  • Small is relative and has no stated threshold.
  • The financial scope and accounting basis are unspecified.
  • Run rates, forecasts and earlier profitability are context rather than matching outcome evidence.

Evidence (3 items)

  • Context only: Microsoft,

    annual revenue run rate

    Why it matters here: This is a substantial disclosed run rate, but it covers Microsoft's AI business and is not realized 2024 generative AI revenue or profit. It cannot settle the specified financial observation.

    Publisher
    Microsoft
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Measures
    Microsoft, AI business annual revenue run rate, USD billions per year, company reported, 2025-01-29 to 2025-01-29
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: CNBC,

    $5 billion in losses

    Why it matters here: The report supports concern about OpenAI's economics, but gives a forecast rather than completed-year results. It also says the loss calculation excludes equity compensation and other expenses; it cannot establish sector-wide net profitability.

    Publisher
    CNBC
    Kind of source
    News report
    Measures
    OpenAI, Forecast 2024 revenue and losses, with exclusions, USD billions, estimate, 2024-01-01 to 2024-12-31
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: TIME,

    had become profitable

    Why it matters here: Reported earlier profitability is a material counterpoint to an unrestricted industry-wide assertion. It does not establish Midjourney's 2024 profit or identify an accounting basis.

    Publisher
    TIME
    Kind of source
    News report
    Measures
    Midjourney, Reported profitability, unknown, ? to 2022
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

Define the provider universe, revenue comparison and profit basis, then obtain matching 2024 realized revenue and attributable profit figures.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Where's Your Ed At, Power Cut

    It is time for investors and the general public to begin demanding tangible and direct numbers on the revenue and profits related to generative AI, as it is becoming increasingly obvious that the revenues are small and the profits are non-existent.

    Published
    2025-03-03
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment wyea-power-cut-d70623-2-a1.