“It’s also fucking laughable how much everybody talks about the “dangers of China getting access to powerful AI.” It already happened! China has NVIDIA GPUs! They’ve had them for years!”
Our reading:
China has had access to advanced NVIDIA GPUs for years despite export controls.
Assessment: Supported
What happened
Was it true for the period described?
Outcome: Supported
The evidence matches what they said.
Judged on a plain reading. They named no measure, so we used the reading a typical informed reader would take. It is spelled out under “How we judged it”.
Evidence up to . Checked .
Why
The procurement reporting identifies Chinese university acquisitions in 2022 and 2023. DeepSeek's December 2024 technical report directly documents training on 2,048 NVIDIA H800 GPUs. These records support the ordinary claim that Chinese entities had advanced NVIDIA GPUs for years. They do not establish unrestricted access, nationwide quantities or the legality of every acquisition.
Caveats
- The earlier procurement evidence is reported through a secondary account of Reuters' investigation.
- The finding does not resolve the separate allegation about DeepSeek using Blackwell GPUs.
- No conclusion is drawn about export controls' overall effectiveness.
Evidence (2 items)
Supports the claim: Tom's Hardware, reporting Reuters' investigation,
80 A100 chips
Why it matters: This describes cumulative acquisitions known by January 2024. The same account identifies specific university purchases in December 2022 and May 2023, establishing access in earlier years rather than merely unfulfilled orders.
- Publisher
- Tom's Hardware, reporting Reuters' investigation
- Kind of source
- News report
- About events on
- Published
Supports the claim: DeepSeek-AI via arXiv,
2048 NVIDIA H800 GPUs
Why it matters: DeepSeek directly reports using a large H800 cluster for model training. Together with the earlier documented acquisitions, this supports access across multiple years.
- Publisher
- DeepSeek-AI via arXiv
- Kind of source
- Preprint, not peer reviewed
- About events on
- Published
How we judged it
- Kind of claim
- Observation
- Deadline
- None given. We don’t add one.
Where we had to interpret
- China means Chinese institutions and companies, rather than requiring possession by the central government itself.
- In context, NVIDIA GPUs means advanced data-center accelerators usable for AI, rather than ordinary consumer graphics cards.
- Years means documented access across multiple years. It does not require every generation, unrestricted supply or a particular national inventory.
- The target period covers the export-control era from October 2022 through the post date. Access during controls does not establish that every acquisition violated those controls.
- The comments about the dangers of access are opinion and are not separately scored.
Right if: Dated procurement records, installations or training disclosures establish Chinese entities' access to advanced NVIDIA AI GPUs across multiple years during the export-control era.
Wrong if: Reliable evidence establishes that the cited access did not occur, concerned only ordinary consumer hardware, or began too recently to support years of access.
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Full record
Source and dates
Where's Your Ed At, Jensen's Bizarre Adventure, paragraph 135.
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We read this wording on 2026-11-11. The post may have been edited after 2026-11-10.
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: Where's Your Ed At, Jensen's Bizarre Adventure
It’s also fucking laughable how much everybody talks about the “dangers of China getting access to powerful AI.” It already happened! China has NVIDIA GPUs! They’ve had them for years!
- Where
- paragraph 135
- Published
- 2026-11-10
- We read it
- , live page
- Access
- full text, public
History
Versions
- Current: Supported. Evidence up to 2026-11-11.
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