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“Does that mean that society should give up on building driverless cars? Absolutely not. In the long run, they will save lives, and also give many people, such the blind, elderly, and disabled, have far more autonomy over their own lives.”

Will Tesla ever “Solve” Full Self Driving?, paragraph 39.

Our reading:

In the long run, driverless cars will save lives and give the blind, elderly, and disabled far more autonomy.

Assessment: Unresolved

What happened

Did the forecast come true?

Outcome: Unresolved

We checked, and the evidence so far doesn’t settle it.

Judged on a plain reading. They named no measure, so we used the reading a typical informed reader would take. It is spelled out under “How we judged it”.

Evidence up to . Checked .

Why

IIHS research released July 23, 2026 found lower crash involvement rates for the Waymo driverless operations studied during 2021–2024 [e1]. Waymo-authored research published May 2, 2025 reported lower injury-related crash rates over 56.7 million rider-only miles through January 2025 [e2]. These findings do not separately establish fewer fatalities attributable to deployment [e1, e2]. AFB's June 2026 report, with fieldwork ending October 15, 2025, recorded accessibility barriers and reported that only 36% of surveyed AV riders could afford rides whenever needed or wanted [e3]. It does not establish substantial, sustained independence gains for many blind, older and disabled people [e3]. The evidence therefore leaves the combined forecast unresolved: it establishes neither both promised benefits nor their long-run impossibility [e1, e2, e3].

Caveats

  • The safety findings apply to the studied Waymo operations and do not separately establish a fatality reduction [e1, e2].
  • The injury study is company-authored [e2].
  • The AFB findings report rider experiences and affordability, without establishing sustained independence gains at meaningful scale across the named populations [e3].
  • Present access barriers do not establish that long-run benefits cannot occur [e3].

Evidence (3 items)

  • Context only: Insurance Institute for Highway Safety,

    The results provide further evidence that Waymo’s current L4 vehicles have lower crash involvement rates than human drivers.

    Why it matters: The study of 2021–2024 records supports a safety benefit for Waymo's studied operations; the event date marks the final study year. Crash reductions do not independently establish the forecast's fatality and mobility components.

    Publisher
    Insurance Institute for Highway Safety
    Kind of source
    Independent measurement
    About events on
    Published
  • Context only: arXiv,

    Cyclist, Motorcycle, Pedestrian, Secondary Crash, and Single Vehicle crashes were also statistically reduced for the Any-Injury-Reported outcome.

    Why it matters: This Waymo-authored study examines 56.7 million rider-only miles through January 2025 and reports favorable injury outcomes. It strengthens the safety case but does not separately establish reduced deaths or broad independence gains.

    Publisher
    arXiv
    Kind of source
    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    About events on
    Published
  • Context only: American Foundation for the Blind,

    Regardless of disability status, only 36% of AV riders said they could afford to pay for an AV whenever they wanted or needed one.

    Why it matters: The survey records enthusiasm alongside affordability and accessibility barriers. Fieldwork ended October 15, 2025; the report specifies June 2026 publication, so June 30 is a conservative availability bound rather than an asserted publication day.

    Publisher
    American Foundation for the Blind
    Kind of source
    Independent measurement
    About events on
    Published

How we judged it

Kind of claim
Forecast
Deadline
“in the long run”

Where we had to interpret

  • In the long run supplies no calendar deadline.
  • Driverless cars includes services that transport passengers without a human driver; this benefits claim does not explicitly require Level 5.
  • Save lives means fewer deaths than would otherwise occur for comparable travel, including effects on other road users.
  • Far more autonomy means substantial, sustained gains in independent travel and access to activities for many people in the named groups.
  • Both the safety and independence components must be established to support the combined forecast.

Right if: Credible real-world evidence establishes reduced fatalities attributable to driverless deployment and substantial, sustained independent-mobility gains for many blind, older, and disabled people.

Wrong if: Decisive evidence establishes that the promised long-run benefits cannot occur. Present shortcomings or a limited deployment's failure do not alone contradict an undated forecast.

We wrote this test after the outcome was known.

What would settle it

Credible exposure-adjusted evidence of reduced fatalities attributable to driverless deployment, including effects on other road users, plus substantial, sustained independence gains at meaningful scale among blind, older and disabled people. Mobility studies should measure independent travel, access, affordability and usability. Decisive evidence that the promised long-run benefits cannot occur would instead contradict the forecast.

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Marcus on AI, Will Tesla ever “Solve” Full Self Driving?, paragraph 39.

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We read this wording on 2026-10-29. The post may have been edited after 2022-06-15.

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  • : Marcus on AI, Will Tesla ever “Solve” Full Self Driving?

    Does that mean that society should give up on building driverless cars? Absolutely not. In the long run, they will save lives, and also give many people, such the blind, elderly, and disabled, have far more autonomy over their own lives.

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    2022-06-15
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History

Versions

  • Current: Unresolved. Evidence up to 2026-10-28.

What happened to this record

  1. PublishedBy us

    Published after both AI reviews and the final check passed.

  2. Held backBy us

    The final check failed: the write-up said more than the evidence showed.