“My informal read (still lacking a tremendous amount of information that I as a scientist would really like to see) is that neither Tesla nor Waymo is anywhere close to something we could use every day, all the time, wherever one wanted to go.”
Our reading:
His informal read, while still lacking a lot of information he would like to see, is that neither Tesla nor Waymo is anywhere close to something we could use every day, all the time, wherever one wanted to go.
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What happened
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Outcome: Can’t be checked
An opinion, a recommendation, or too vague to test. Listed, not scored.
Evidence up to . Checked .
Why
Marcus gives an explicitly tentative, information-limited assessment and leaves 'anywhere close' undefined. The unrestricted-driving scope is clear, but grading availability or operating restrictions would not settle the qualified proximity judgment he actually expressed. The plain-reading rule for firm claims does not apply.
Caveats
- This decision concerns whether the wording can be fairly scored; it makes no finding about Tesla's or Waymo's actual capabilities.
- No external evidence search was conducted because operating evidence would not remove the wording's lack of a scoring standard.
Evidence (0 items)
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How we judged it
- Kind of claim
- Observation
- Deadline
- None given. We don’t add one.
Conditions
- informal read (their words)
- still lacking a tremendous amount of information (their words)
Where we had to interpret
- The statement expresses a tentative assessment of readiness at publication, explicitly qualified by incomplete information.
- The intended capability is unrestricted everyday autonomous driving. However, the speaker supplies no measure of closeness to that capability.
- Testing whether unrestricted driving was already available would replace his qualified judgment about proximity with a different claim about availability.
We don’t grade claims like this. We only check the quote and who said it.
What would settle it
A clarification from the speaker defining closeness and the strength of the commitment would permit a new assessment; it would not retroactively make this wording definite.
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Source and dates
Marcus on AI, Will Tesla ever “Solve” Full Self Driving?, paragraph 32.
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We read this wording on 2026-10-29. The post may have been edited after 2022-06-15.
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: Marcus on AI, Will Tesla ever “Solve” Full Self Driving?
My informal read (still lacking a tremendous amount of information that I as a scientist would really like to see) is that neither Tesla nor Waymo is anywhere close to something we could use every day, all the time, wherever one wanted to go.
- Where
- paragraph 32
- Published
- 2022-06-15
- We read it
- , live page
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- full text, public
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