Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“Statistical word prediction is no substitute for real math, but more than a few people have thought that it was.”

Scientists, please don’t let your chatbots grow up to be co-authors, paragraph 7. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Statistical word prediction cannot substitute for real mathematical computation.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, Scientists, please don’t let your chatbots grow up to be co-authors, paragraph 7.

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What the claim commits to

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From the speaker

  • Statistical word prediction is no substitute for real math

Our interpretation

  • In the surrounding discussion of a pace calculation, the ordinary reading is that contemporary unaided ChatGPT was not a dependable replacement for mathematical computation requiring correct numerical answers.
  • This is not interpreted as a theorem that all future language models must fail at mathematics, or that contemporary models could solve no mathematical problems.
  • For this ongoing observation, use the publicly observable period from ChatGPT’s launch through the post, November 30, 2022 to January 14, 2023.
  • The supplied normalized proposition concerns mathematical substitutability; the accompanying assertion about how many people believed otherwise is not separately quantified.

Counts as supported if: Contemporary demonstrations show plausible but wrong mathematical results from unaided ChatGPT on tasks handled correctly by direct computation.

Counts as contradicted if: Contemporary evaluations establish dependable replacement of direct computation across the relevant numerical tasks, and the alleged failures are shown to be misreported or outside that scope.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Supported

The dated evidence matches what the claim committed to, under the criteria frozen before grading.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

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Rationale

On January 9, 2023, Wolfram compared unaided ChatGPT’s mathematical answers with computational results and showed plausible but incorrect answers [e1]. This supports the contextual claim that contemporary unaided ChatGPT was not a dependable substitute for precise numerical computation [e1].

Limitations

  • The demonstration provides no representative mathematical error rate and does not establish an impossibility applying to all future language models or systems using computational tools [e1].
  • The January 31, 2023 evaluation’s supplied abstract does not establish when responses were collected, so it cannot establish performance during the November 30, 2022–January 14, 2023 target period [e2].
  • The November 30, 2022 launch disclosure acknowledges incorrect answers but does not measure mathematical accuracy [e3].

Evidence (3 items)

  • Supports the claim: Stephen Wolfram,

    it often falls down.

    Why it matters here: Wolfram presents direct comparisons in which ChatGPT’s plausible mathematical answers fail checks against computational results. These support the narrow claim that unaided contemporary output could not be treated as dependable calculation.

    Publisher
    Stephen Wolfram
    Kind of source
    Demonstration
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: Simon Frieder and colleagues / arXiv,

    fails to provide correct solutions.

    Why it matters here: The later evaluation reports substantial mathematical limitations. It is not decisive for the target period because the retrieved abstract does not establish when the tested responses were collected.

    Publisher
    Simon Frieder and colleagues / arXiv
    Kind of source
    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: OpenAI,

    plausible-sounding but incorrect or nonsensical answers.

    Why it matters here: The launch disclosure establishes the beginning of the observation period and acknowledges incorrect answers. It does not itself measure mathematical accuracy.

    Publisher
    OpenAI
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, Scientists, please don’t let your chatbots grow up to be co-authors

    Statistical word prediction is no substitute for real math, but more than a few people have thought that it was.

    Published
    2023-01-14
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

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  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment marcus-scientists-please-dont-let-your-chatbots-5e69a7-a3.

  2. HeldBy this site

    The final-text check failed: rationale_supported_by_evidence, citations_correct; overclaims: The January 31, 2023 evaluation does not establish when its tested responses were collected, so it cannot establish performance during the November 30, 2022–January 14, 2023 target period [e2]..

    About assessment marcus-scientists-please-dont-let-your-chatbots-5e69a7-a2, which was not published.