Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“This is even more true four years later, now that we have systems that ingest massive amounts of data from both public and commercial sources, quite possibly including eg sample law school and medical exams etc.”

No, Virginia, AGI is not imminent, paragraph 11. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Because current systems ingest massive data possibly including sample exams, benchmark success is even less indicative of intelligence than in 2019.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, No, Virginia, AGI is not imminent, paragraph 11.

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What the claim commits to

Kind
Causal claim
Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
None stated. This site does not add one.
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Deadline state on 2026-10-29
No horizon (the release’s reference date)

From the speaker

  • even more true four years later
  • ingest massive amounts of data
  • both public and commercial sources
  • quite possibly including eg sample law school and medical exams

Our interpretation

  • The claim concerns a deterioration between 2019 and August 20, 2023, caused by expanded training-data exposure.
  • I interpret benchmark informativeness as how well scores predict performance on genuinely unseen tasks. This is an operational measure, not a definition of intelligence.
  • Possible exam exposure is a proposed mechanism, not a firm assertion that particular exams were included.

Counts as supported if: Comparable evaluations of 2019 and pre-post 2023 systems show that expanded training exposure caused benchmark scores to become less predictive of unseen-task performance.

Counts as contradicted if: Comparable evaluations show that expanded exposure did not reduce benchmark predictive validity, or that validity improved after controlling for other changes.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Does the evidence support the cause?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

Contamination can inflate scores, but that does not establish that benchmarks became less informative between 2019 and August 2023 because training corpora expanded. The controlled study distinguishes memorization from exploitation, and OpenAI reported little contamination effect on its exam results. Neither supplies the comparison needed to settle Marcus's causal claim.

Limitations

  • OpenAI's audit was a developer assessment with acknowledged detection limits.
  • Unseen-task generalization captures only part of what intelligence might mean.

Evidence (2 items)

  • Context only: arXiv; Inbal Magar and Roy Schwartz,

    exploit the contaminated data

    Why it matters here: Controlled experiments found that contamination could improve downstream results, but memorization did not always produce that improvement. This establishes a possible mechanism without measuring a deterioration from 2019 to 2023.

    Publisher
    arXiv; Inbal Magar and Roy Schwartz
    Kind of source
    Preprint, not peer reviewed
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: OpenAI,

    very little effect

    Why it matters here: OpenAI reported little change after removing detected contaminated exam questions. Its audit acknowledged detection limitations and did not provide the longitudinal comparison needed to contradict the full claim.

    Publisher
    OpenAI
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

A controlled comparison of 2019 and pre-August 20, 2023 systems measuring benchmark predictive validity with and without training exposure to benchmark material.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, No, Virginia, AGI is not imminent

    This is even more true four years later, now that we have systems that ingest massive amounts of data from both public and commercial sources, quite possibly including eg sample law school and medical exams etc.

    Published
    2023-08-20
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

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    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment marcus-no-virginia-agi-is-not-imminent-27976b-a1.