Pundit ClaimsAI claims by Gary Marcus and Ed Zitron, with the evidence

“OpenAI will no doubt by now have filtered this specific example so that it can no longer be replicated, now that it has appeared in a lawsuit.”

Deconstructing Geoffrey Hinton’s weakest argument, paragraph 52 (footnote 2). The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

OpenAI has no doubt by now filtered this specific NYT-lawsuit example so that it can no longer be replicated, now that it has appeared in a lawsuit.

Assessment: Unresolved Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, Deconstructing Geoffrey Hinton’s weakest argument, paragraph 52 (footnote 2).

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What the claim commits to

Kind
Observation
Deadline, as the speaker wrote it
“by now”
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Deadline state on 2026-10-29
No horizon (the release’s reference date)

Conditions

  • no doubt (qualifier, stated by the speaker)
  • now that it has appeared in a lawsuit (qualifier, stated by the speaker)

From the speaker

  • OpenAI will no doubt by now have filtered
  • this specific example
  • so that it can no longer be replicated
  • now that it has appeared in a lawsuit

Our interpretation

  • By now asserts a completed change by February 5, 2024. Despite the future-perfect phrasing, this is an observation about the state at publication, not a future forecast.
  • This specific example refers to the lawsuit reproduction illustrated in the post, not every New York Times reproduction or every memorization attack.
  • Support requires evidence both of a filtering change affecting that example and of its effect on reproducibility. A general anti-regurgitation policy is insufficient.
  • The target is the deployed system's state on February 5, 2024. Earlier statements and later tests are context unless they establish that historical state.

Counts as supported if: A dated technical disclosure, deployment record, or adequately controlled contemporaneous test establishes that OpenAI had blocked reproduction of the illustrated example by February 5, 2024.

Counts as contradicted if: A documented successful replication on the relevant deployed system at the target date, or reliable records establishing that the asserted filter was absent or ineffective then.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Unresolved

The record was checked, and the evidence available by the cutoff does not settle it.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

Evidence as of
Deadline state when assessed
No horizon
Assessment recorded
Policy version
2026-10-28.7

Rationale

OpenAI had publicly described general anti-regurgitation measures before the post. That does not establish that it filtered the specific illustrated example or made it irreproducible by February 5. The searches and reviewed filing did not supply the necessary change record or contemporaneous replication test. The confident wording is therefore unverified, rather than disproved.

Limitations

  • The relevant generation setup is unspecified.
  • A filter could have existed without a public announcement.
  • Later model behavior cannot by itself establish behavior on the target date.

Evidence (1 item)

  • Context only: OpenAI,

    measures in place

    Why it matters here: OpenAI publicly described general measures against memorization and regurgitation. This does not identify Marcus's example, a change prompted by the lawsuit, or the system's reproducibility on February 5.

    Publisher
    OpenAI
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from

What would settle it

Identify the exact example and obtain dated deployment records or contemporaneous tests for the relevant model and interface. A successful replication at the target date would directly challenge the claim; support requires evidence of the asserted blocking change.

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, Deconstructing Geoffrey Hinton’s weakest argument

    OpenAI will no doubt by now have filtered this specific example so that it can no longer be replicated, now that it has appeared in a lawsuit.

    Published
    2024-02-05
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

History

Assessment versions

Recorded events

  1. Assessment publishedBy this site

    First assessment published after both reviews and the final-text check passed.

    About assessment marcus-deconstructing-geoffrey-hintons-weakest-5731dc-a1.