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“You said, for instance in 2015, that (truly) self-driving cars were two years away; you’ve pretty much said the same thing every year since. It still hasn’t happened.”

Dear Elon Musk, here are five things you might want to consider about AGI, paragraph 9. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Musk said in 2015 that truly self-driving cars were two years away and has pretty much said the same thing every year since, and truly self-driving cars still had not arrived.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, Dear Elon Musk, here are five things you might want to consider about AGI, paragraph 9.

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What the claim commits to

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Conditions

  • pretty much every year since (qualifier, stated by the speaker)

From the speaker

  • in 2015
  • (truly) self-driving cars were two years away
  • pretty much said the same thing every year since
  • It still hasn’t happened

Our interpretation

  • The surrounding discussion makes Tesla the ordinary scope of the claim.
  • Truly self-driving means driving without a human continuously supervising and being ready to intervene.
  • Pretty much the same thing means repeated near-term forecasts, usually within about two years, rather than an identical two-year promise every calendar year.
  • The target period covers the explicitly named prediction history through the post date. The non-arrival assertion concerns the end of that period.

Counts as supported if: Records establish the 2015 two-year prediction, substantially annual repetitions of near-term autonomy predictions, and Tesla's continued reliance on supervised driving assistance before the post.

Counts as contradicted if: Records disprove the attributed 2015 statement or the recurring prediction pattern, or establish that Tesla had delivered the promised unsupervised driving capability before the post.

Retrospective: these criteria were written after the outcome was public.

Current assessment

Was it true for the period described?

Outcome: Supported

The dated evidence matches what the claim committed to, under the criteria frozen before grading.

Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

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Rationale

The 2015 quotation is accurate. Dated accounts document recurring near-term forecasts through 2022, while contemporary testing still required human supervision. This supports the ordinary Tesla-specific reading. The timelines and promised milestones varied, so the evidence does not establish an identical two-year promise every year. Waymo's earlier driverless service means the statement should not be generalized to every company.

Limitations

  • Several predictions are documented through contemporary reporting because readable original transcripts were unavailable.
  • The direct 2022 driving observations cover January and February rather than May 31 itself.
  • The outcome depends on the contextual Tesla-specific scope.

Evidence (6 items)

  • Supports the claim: Fortune,

    “We’re going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years.”

    Why it matters here: The original interview establishes the attributed prediction. Musk separately allowed additional time for regulatory approval, so the prediction concerned technical capability first.

    Publisher
    Fortune
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Supports the claim: Inverse,

    I feel very confident predicting autonomous robo taxis for Tesla by next year.

    Why it matters here: Reports the 2019 robotaxi forecast. Its chronology also documents a 2016 coast-to-coast forecast, a 2017 two-year sleeping-at-the-wheel forecast, and a 2018 forecast of full self-driving the following year.

    Publisher
    Inverse
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    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Supports the claim: BBC News,

    Tesla will be able to make its vehicles completely autonomous by the end of this year, founder Elon Musk has said.

    Why it matters here: Documents another near-term prediction in 2020, explicitly concerning autonomy without driver input.

    Publisher
    BBC News
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Supports the claim: Ars Technica,

    “I’m confident based on my understanding of the technical roadmap and the progress that we’re making between each beta iteration,” Musk said.

    Why it matters here: The preceding paragraph identifies this as Musk's answer about achieving Level 5 by the end of 2021. This extends the recurring short-timeline pattern into 2021.

    Publisher
    Ars Technica
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Supports the claim: CNBC,

    All three drivers understood that the technology does not make their Tesla electric cars fully self driving, despite the brand name.

    Why it matters here: Direct ride-alongs documented continuing supervision and interventions. The article also reports Musk's renewed prediction, on the 2021 year-end earnings call, of achieving full self-driving during 2022.

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    CNBC
    Kind of source
    News report
    Describes events of
    Public from
  • Context only: Waymo,

    Beginning today, October 8, we’re excited to open up our fully driverless offering to Waymo One riders.

    Why it matters here: Driverless service existed at another company within a limited service area. This is material to the wording's scope, but does not establish that Tesla fulfilled Musk's predictions.

    Publisher
    Waymo
    Kind of source
    Company disclosure: the company describing itself, not an independent finding
    Describes events of
    Public from

Where it was said (1)

Said once in the sources this register covers.

  • : Marcus on AI, Dear Elon Musk, here are five things you might want to consider about AGI

    You said, for instance in 2015, that (truly) self-driving cars were two years away; you’ve pretty much said the same thing every year since. It still hasn’t happened.

    Published
    2022-05-31
    Source observed
    , live page
    Access
    full text, public

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