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““Adversarial attacks” like these have shown remarkable weakness, time and again, repeatedly establishing that what deep learning systems do just isn’t the same as what people do:”

David beats Go-liath, paragraph 9. The full statement is at the source.

Our reading, the sentence that was checked:

Adversarial attacks have repeatedly shown that deep learning systems have remarkable weaknesses and don't work the way people do.

Assessment: Supported Evidence as of

Where and when Gary Marcus wrote it

Marcus on AI, David beats Go-liath, paragraph 9.

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From the speaker

  • Adversarial attacks
  • remarkable weakness
  • time and again
  • what deep learning systems do just isn’t the same as what people do

Our interpretation

  • The preceding seven-year discussion supplies the historical period.
  • Repeatedly means multiple independent demonstrations of substantial vulnerability.
  • The ordinary testable reading concerns differing behavior on attacked tasks. It does not establish that humans and networks share no computational principles.

Counts as supported if: Multiple primary studies demonstrate substantial adversarial failures, with evidence that human responses or robustness differ on comparable inputs.

Counts as contradicted if: The reported vulnerabilities fail to reproduce, or appropriate human comparisons remove the claimed behavioral differences.

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Outcome: Supported

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Scored on a plain reading. The speaker named no measure for this claim, so it was judged on the reading an informed reader would take, stated below under our interpretation. Both reviews had to find that reading fair.

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Rationale

In 2017, adversarial distractor sentences reduced average reading-comprehension F1 from 75% to 36% across sixteen models; direct human testing found substantially smaller losses [e5]. In 2018, a separate speech-recognition study reported 100% success in making DeepSpeech produce attacker-selected transcriptions in its tested white-box setting [e6]. These studies support repeated substantial weaknesses and observed differences from human behavior during the claimed period [e5, e6]. The difference is not universal: a 2018 study found that adversarial images also influenced time-limited human observers [e7].

Limitations

  • These behavioral results do not establish that human and deep-learning mechanisms are fundamentally unrelated [e5, e6, e7].
  • The speech study's audio-similarity finding does not provide the same direct human comparison as the reading-comprehension study [e5, e6].
  • The evidence does not establish human immunity to adversarial attacks [e7].

Evidence (3 items)

  • Supports the claim: Jia and Liang, EMNLP paper hosted on arXiv,

    no published open-source model is robust to the addition of adversarial sentences.

    Why it matters here: Distracting sentences sharply reduced model performance. Direct human testing showed substantially smaller losses, supporting a behavioral robustness difference rather than perfect human immunity.

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    Jia and Liang, EMNLP paper hosted on arXiv
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  • Supports the claim: Carlini and Wagner, arXiv,

    show it has a 100% success rate.

    Why it matters here: A separate domain exhibits severe vulnerability: small audio changes induce attacker-selected transcriptions. This establishes repetition across tasks; the paper's perceptual-similarity discussion is weaker evidence than a controlled human comparison.

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    Carlini and Wagner, arXiv
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    Preprint, not peer reviewed
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  • Context only: Elsayed et al., NeurIPS paper hosted on arXiv,

    influence the classifications made by time-limited human observers.

    Why it matters here: Some attacks influence humans under restricted viewing conditions. This limits the generalization but does not erase documented differences in other experiments.

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    Elsayed et al., NeurIPS paper hosted on arXiv
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    Peer-reviewed paper
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  • : Marcus on AI, David beats Go-liath

    “Adversarial attacks” like these have shown remarkable weakness, time and again, repeatedly establishing that what deep learning systems do just isn’t the same as what people do:

    Published
    2023-02-18
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